tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post113890597923404226..comments2009-10-21T17:18:41.804-04:00Madame Xhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11536189690094235926openwallet1@yahoo.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-54628268344704525602009-10-04T17:51:56.538-04:002009-10-04T17:51:56.538-04:00Great post! I&#39;ll get back to this post when I&#39;m about to ask for a raise :-)allisterhttp://allisterx.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-18351669845669811582008-12-15T10:14:00.000-05:002008-12-15T10:14:00.000-05:00It sounds to me, that you gave an ultimatum to your boss. If nothing else works, than this is OK too. But there are other, "softer" types of salary negotiations. <BR/>Your kind of negotiation can be dangerous for an employee. Why take that risk?Gordon Hayeshttp://www.goforyourraise.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-68764457691897579362008-08-26T23:10:00.000-04:002008-08-26T23:10:00.000-04:00Powerful story. As a young professional I thoroughly appreciate you sharing this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-36079737453474101662007-03-14T11:33:00.000-04:002007-03-14T11:33:00.000-04:00I'm about to take a heavy dose of your advice today, wish me luck!Ms. MiniDuckyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07293868300535734672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-1169999437516131532007-01-28T10:50:00.000-05:002007-01-28T10:50:00.000-05:00And the NYC law firm pay scale now starts at 160K.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-1139959242120233322006-02-14T18:20:00.000-05:002006-02-14T18:20:00.000-05:00revision-- NYC law firm salaries now stand at:<BR/>1st year- $145K<BR/>2nd year- $155K<BR/>3rd year- $170K<BR/>4th year- $190K<BR/>5th year- $205K<BR/>6th year- $215K<BR/>7th year- $225K<BR/>8th year- $235KAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-1139243142501111062006-02-06T11:25:00.000-05:002006-02-06T11:25:00.000-05:00"lifestyle" and/or "prestige" (i.e. bigger firm, better rep), but money usually substanitally similar, if not the same. However, some of the tippy top firms sometimes payout "boom-year" bonuses above the regular salary and bonus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-1139241365478703642006-02-06T10:56:00.000-05:002006-02-06T10:56:00.000-05:00Interesting, I didn't realize the salary levels were so fixed. So your incentive to perform well is just to make partner and/or not get fired! And your incentive to want to move to another firm would be the supposed better "lifestyle" offered by some, but not money.Madame Xhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11536189690094235926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-1139240509000418662006-02-06T10:41:00.000-05:002006-02-06T10:41:00.000-05:00attorney at large law firm in new york city. large ones start at 125 for first year, then 135, 150, 170, 185/190, 205, 215, 220/225. Currently there is another salary war starting which will push up the aforementioned another 20K. This is without bonus, which starts at 30-35K up to 60-65K guaranteed.<BR/><BR/>in the legal industry (at least at big law firms, 5-6 years back, all firms began complying with lockstep payment methods (at least the big ones did). thus, it is a "scale" or "lockstep" salary calculation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-1139187736915178382006-02-05T20:02:00.000-05:002006-02-05T20:02:00.000-05:00anon, just curious what field you work in and what you mean by being paid on scale method?<BR/>I would guess that some fields are more sensitive about employees going to competing companies, eg. high-tech or creative jobs or something where retaining a client base is crucial. <BR/>In publishing, people tend to move around a lot and it's a relatively small industry, concentrated largely in one city. No one wants to lose good talent, especially a star editor with lots of good authors who might go with them. But in other respects, everyone benefits from employees having exposure to other companies, so I don't think anyone sweats it too much. People go around and come back around. <BR/>So yes, worked for me but might not for others.Madame Xhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11536189690094235926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-1138985667069535322006-02-03T11:54:00.000-05:002006-02-03T11:54:00.000-05:00Madame X, I appreciate the two detailed examples you provided. I think this is fantastic advice for anybody who wants to ask for a raise!Seattle Simplicityhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13595367207712520382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-1138981529821366362006-02-03T10:45:00.000-05:002006-02-03T10:45:00.000-05:00worked for you. in my field, if i mentioned my headhunter calls, they'd be pissed and probably tell me to take them--but i'm paid on a scale method for the first 8 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-1138976803925572782006-02-03T09:26:00.000-05:002006-02-03T09:26:00.000-05:00anon-- you have a point, but it probably depends on the situation. In my case I don't think it was a big deal-- everyone knows headhunters just randomly call people and to pretend you would just hang up on them would make you look like a chump. I don't think they have me pegged as a jumper-- I made very clear that I was not looking to leave, and had turned down the opportunity to interview, but saw the quoted salary as another piece of comparative data about the industry, not an ultimatum that they had to match that salary or I'd leave.Madame Xhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11536189690094235926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-1138949037907745282006-02-03T01:43:00.000-05:002006-02-03T01:43:00.000-05:00All of this is great advice, not just for women. By the time I have by 2005 annual review (sometime this month), my raise and bonus are "already set" (ehh, whatever). So I had to start the "subtle campaign" a little earlier...Flexohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02538726347794373637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-1138927585355456802006-02-02T19:46:00.000-05:002006-02-02T19:46:00.000-05:00Can't say I agree with anonymous because it sounds like you worded it well...you just told the truth (we can't all "refuse" a head hunter's call if they call us directly etc) and it was just one very small data point in your arsenal.<BR/><BR/>I think it was all very good adviceCaitlinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07099173870125319819noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-1138919261439528072006-02-02T17:27:00.000-05:002006-02-02T17:27:00.000-05:00"I also mentioned the headhunter's call and the salary I'd been quoted, and suggested that I often heard about open positions from my many friends and contacts from the various places I'd worked."<BR/><BR/>Bad advice. They know headhunters call. To admit you take them puts them on notice of your intentions. They may appease you with a few dollars, but they have you pegged as a jumper. NEVER admit contact with headhunters with a current employer (unless of course you dont give a rats ass and can leave at will). It serves no purpose other than to tell them you are looking to leave. i know you'll say "well it worked for me". (a) maybe it did, maybe it didnt. they may have you marked. (b) maybe they give you more if you dont mention the headhunter thing (again, why throw money at someone who is a headhunter magnet.<BR/>Everything else you mentioned is fine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14245531.post-1138918350000577722006-02-02T17:12:00.000-05:002006-02-02T17:12:00.000-05:00That's great advice. While I'm in no position to do that right now, I'll tuck it in the back of my mind for later on in life. Thanks :)frankyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14474054245090631099noreply@blogger.com